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This 2024 podcast provides direct insight from the sponsor of California's SB 1047, a landmark and contested state-level AI safety bill targeting frontier model developers, useful for understanding the political dynamics of AI governance efforts.
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California State Senator Scott Wiener joins Lawfare to discuss SB 1047, his 'Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence Models' bill. The conversation covers key debates the bill has sparked around AI safety vs. security, state vs. federal regulation, and model-level vs. end-user governance. Wiener addresses opposition from the tech industry and signals openness to amendments.
Key Points
- •SB 1047 focuses on regulating frontier AI models rather than end-users, making it a novel approach in AI governance debates.
- •Wiener acknowledges significant industry opposition but distinguishes between constructive critics and those opposed to any AI regulation.
- •The bill has become a flashpoint for broader debates: state vs. federal AI regulation and AI safety vs. AI security framing.
- •Wiener signals openness to amendments, including removing the proposed Frontier Model Division, partly in response to Anthropic's suggestions.
- •FTC Chair Lena Khan's implicit skepticism and tech-sector pushback illustrate the political headwinds facing state-level AI safety legislation.
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Scott Wiener, California State Senator, joins Kevin Frazier, Assistant Professor at St. Thomas University College of Law and a Tarbell Fellow at _Lawfare_, to explore his “Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence Models” bill, also known as SB 1047. The bill has become a flashpoint in several larger AI debates: AI safety v. AI security, federal regulation or state regulation, model or end-user governance. Senator Wiener and Kevin analyze these topics and forthcoming hurdles to SB 1047 becoming law.
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**Transcript**
**_\[Intro\]_**
**Scott Wiener:** I've
shown a real willingness to, to make significant changes to the bill.
Unfortunately, there are others who are not engaging constructively, who are
simply taking the approach of, you know, get off my lawn and just don't want
any regulation at all of AI.
**Kevin Frazier:** It's
the _Lawfare Podcast_. I'm Kevin Frazier, assistant professor at St. Thomas
University College of Law, and a Tarbell Fellow at _Lawfare_ joined by
California State Senator Scott Wiener.
**Scott Wiener:** The
existence of the, of Frontier Model Division has caused a lot of concern and
anxiety in some quarters, and, and I am not wedded to that. So that's an
amendment Anthropic has proposed that we are, you know, quite open to.
**Kevin Frazier:** Today
we're talking about his Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence
Models bill, also known as SB1047, a controversial AI bill he's spearheading in
the Golden State.
**_\[Main Podcast\]_**
Senator, you'
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