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A 2013 LessWrong post offering a candid personal evaluation of CFAR's early workshops; relevant to understanding applied rationality training effectiveness but not directly related to AI safety research.

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A CFAR workshop alumna reflects one year after attending one of the organization's earliest workshops, offering an honest assessment of how much the training actually changed her behavior and thinking. She finds that while goal achievement was modest (4 of 13 fully completed), the conceptual frameworks gained had lasting value, particularly in professional contexts like nursing. The post highlights the fundamental difficulty of translating short-term intensive training into lasting behavioral change.

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  • Short-term intensive workshops are unlikely to produce dramatic behavior change; brains require repeated practice over time to form new habits (System 1).
  • Of 13 written goals set at the workshop, only 4 were fully accomplished and 5 partially — a realistic baseline for this type of intervention.
  • Conceptual frameworks like Kahneman's System 1/System 2 thinking had lasting practical value even when not deliberately applied.
  • Volunteering at a later workshop provided a useful 'outside' perspective on CFAR's evolution and the realistic impact of its training.
  • The author values CFAR less for immediate behavior change and more for introducing frameworks and a community that support longer-term development.

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x This website requires javascript to properly function. Consider activating javascript to get access to all site functionality. The Centre for Applied Rationality: a year later from a (somewhat) outside perspective — LessWrong Center for Applied Rationality (CFAR) Frontpage 65

 The Centre for Applied Rationality: a year later from a (somewhat) outside perspective 

 by Swimmer963 (Miranda Dixon-Luinenburg) 27th May 2013 6 min read 102 65

 I recently had the privilege of being a CFAR alumni volunteering at a later workshop, which is a fascinating thing to do, and put me in a position both to evaluate how much of a difference the first workshop actually made in my life, and to see how the workshops themselves have evolved. 

 Exactly a year ago, I attended one of the first workshops , back when they were still inexplicably called “minicamps”. I wasn't sure what to expect, and I especially wasn't sure why I had been accepted. But I bravely bullied the nursing faculty staff until they reluctantly let me switch a day of clinical around, and later stumbled off my plane into the San Francisco airport in a haze of exhaustion. The workshop spat me out three days later, twice as exhausted, with teetering piles of ideas and very little time or energy to apply them. I left with a list of annual goals, which I had never bothered to have before, and a feeling that more was possible–this included the feeling that more would have been possible if the workshop had been longer and less chaotic, if I had slept more the week before, if I hadn't had to rush out on Sunday evening to catch a plane and miss the social.  

 Like I frequently do on Less Wrong the website, I left the minicamp feeling a bit like an outsider, but also a bit like I had come home. As well as my written goals, I made an unwritten pre-commitment to come back to San Francisco later, for longer, and see whether I could make the "more is possible" in my head more specific. Of my thirteen written goals on my list, I fully accomplished only four and partially accomplished five, but I did make it back to San Francisco, at the opportunity cost of four weeks of sacrificed hospital shifts.  

 A week or so into my stay, while I shifted around between different rationalist shared houses and attempted to max out interesting-conversations-for-day, I found out that CFAR was holding another May workshop. I offered to volunteer, proved my sincerity by spending 6 hours printing and sticking nametags, and lived on site for another 4-day weekend of delightful information overload and limited sleep. 

 Before the May 2012 workshop, I had a low prior that any four-day workshop could be life-changing in a major way. A four-year nursing degree, okay–I've successfully retrained my social skills and my ability to react under pressure by putting myself in particular situations over and over and over and over again. Four days? Nah. Brains don't work that way. 

 In my experience, it's exc

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