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A personal essay providing cultural and sociological context about the rationalist and AI safety community centered in Berkeley, useful for understanding the social milieu surrounding AI safety research and discourse in 2024.

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David Kasten reflects on attending the LessOnline and Manifest conferences at Lighthaven in Berkeley, describing the unique intellectual energy of rationalist and AI safety communities gathering amid shared existential uncertainty. The essay captures both the inspiring community-building aspects of these events and the pervasive anxiety among Bay Area AI professionals about imminent transformative or catastrophic change.

Key Points

  • Lighthaven in Berkeley serves as a physical hub for rationalist and AI safety communities, combining living and working spaces with a distinctive intellectual culture.
  • Conference attendees shared an unusual density of highly engaged thinkers interested in AI, prediction markets, rationality, and existential risk.
  • A notable undercurrent at the events was the sense among Bay Area AI professionals that transformative—possibly catastrophic—change is imminent.
  • The gatherings are described as rare spaces where intellectually curious people can form instant meaningful connections around consequential topics.
  • The essay draws on multiple perspectives from attendees including Zvi Mowshowitz, Byrne Hobart, and Scott Sumner to paint a composite picture of the scene.

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 David Kasten Jun 24, 2024 9 Share Hi, 
 So here are some things I thought about over the past few weeks. 

 Havens of light at the coming of shadows (or, notes from LessOnline and Manifest Conferences in Berkeley, CA) 

 I spent two weekends earlier this month at the LessOnline and Manifest Conferences in Berkeley, California. (About which, previously .) I came away refreshed, but far more uncertain about the future ahead. I’m not the first to write an essay about the experience; given that part of the conferences was about celebrating great writing on the Internet, let’s start by doing just that: 

 Theo Jaffee : 

 The secret behind Manifest’s unparalleled social atmosphere is the people it attracted. Every single person I talked to, without exception, was both smart and interesting. I could walk up to people I had never met before and instantly insert myself into a conversation on ancient Greek military history, prediction markets applied to romance, or whether AI will end the world. I could look across the room, realize “oh wow that’s so-and-so from Twitter!”, introduce myself, and immediately become friends with them…

 …The venue fit the occasion perfectly. Lighthaven is a complex of buildings on the site of the now-defunct Rose Garden Inn in Berkeley. When it’s not being used as an event space, it’s the working headquarters of Lightcone Infrastructure and home to many rationalists - a mix of village, hacker house, WeWork, and resort. Lighthaven has six buildings, each with their own unique character - from the wide open, more modern Aumann Hall to the darker, Gothic Bayes Hall. It’s absolutely bursting with places to sit and gather - giant indoor and outdoor sitting areas, more intimate upstairs salons, porches, roof decks, outdoor gazebos, an amphitheater, and even a small geodesic dome. Most rooms are tastefully appointed with soft carpets, low-to-the-ground seating, incredibly well-selected books, and ample natural lighting. Everything has variety, even the green spaces. The huge astroturfed green of Rat Park, meant for large gatherings, contrasts beautifully with the more contemplative Walled Garden, with its trees, flowers, and places to read, do work, or nap. 

 Zvi Mowshowitz : 

 I had a great time at LessOnline. It was a both a working trip and also a trip to an alternate universe, a road not taken, a vision of a different life where you get up and start the day in dialogue with Agnes Callard and Aristotle and in a strange combination of relaxed and frantically go from conversation to conversation on various topic

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