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Written in November 2022 following the FTX collapse, this post represents a prominent EA figure's public moral reckoning with the scandal and its implications for trust, oversight, and ethical standards within the effective altruism movement.

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Robert Wiblin of 80,000 Hours publicly condemns FTX leadership's misuse of customer deposits, distinguishing between risky speculation and outright asset misappropriation. He reflects on the EA community's failure to exercise adequate due diligence on FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried, and draws lessons about the critical importance of integrity and oversight in leadership within EA-aligned organizations.

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  • Wiblin draws a sharp moral distinction between speculative crypto investment and the alleged misappropriation of customer deposits without consent.
  • The FTX collapse betrayed not only depositors but also investors, employees, and EA organizations that had been promised philanthropic support.
  • The EA community is acknowledged to have been insufficiently skeptical of FTX leadership, highlighting a need for stronger due diligence norms.
  • Integrity in financial and organizational leadership is framed as a non-negotiable prerequisite, not a tradeoff against impact.
  • The post reflects broader EA reckoning with how 'ends justify the means' reasoning can enable ethical failures even among mission-driven actors.

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My reaction to FTX: appalled — EA Forum 
 
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 by Robert_Wiblin Nov 11 2022 2 min read 73 326

 Community FTX collapse FTX Foundation Frontpage I thought I would repost this thread I wrote for Twitter. 

 I've been waiting for the Future Fund people to have their say, and they have all resigned ( https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xafpj3on76uRDoBja/the-ftx-future-fund-team-has-resigned-1 ).

 So now you can hear what I think.

 I am ******* appalled.

 If media reports of what happened are at all accurate, what at least two people high up at FTX and Alameda have done here is inexcusable (e.g. https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-tapped-into-customer-accounts-to-fund-risky-bets-setting-up-its-downfall-11668093732 ).

 Making risky trades with depositors’ funds without telling them is grossly immoral.

 (I'm gripped reading the news and Twitter like everyone else and this is all based on my reading between the lines of e.g.: https://twitter.com/astridwilde1/status/1590763404851281920 , https://twitter.com/jonwu_/status/1590099676744646656 , https://www.ft.com/content/593cad86-683c-4444-ac7b-c5c875fb4d95 , https://www.wsj.com/articles/binance-is-said-to-be-likely-to-walk-away-from-deal-to-buy-ftx-11668020963 

 I also speak only for myself here.)

 Probably some story will come out about why they felt they had no choice, but one always has a choice to act with integrity or not to.

 One or more leaders at FTX have betrayed the trust of everyone who was counting on them.

 Most importantly FTX's depositors, who didn't stand to gain on the upside but were unwittingly exposed to a massive downside and may lose savings they and their families were relying on.

 FTX leaders also betrayed investors, staff, collaborators, and the groups working to reduce suffering and the risk of future tragedies that they committed to help.

 No plausible ethics permits one to lose money trading then take other people's money to make yet more risky bets in the hope that doing so will help you make it back.

 That basic story has blown up banks and destroyed lives many times through history.

 Good leaders resist the temptation to double down, and instead eat their losses up front.

 In his tweets Sam claims that he's working to get depositors paid back as much as possible.

 I hope that is his only focus and that it's possible to compensate the most vulnerable FTX depositors to the greatest extent.

 To people who have quit jobs or made life plans assuming that FTX wouldn't implode overnight, my heart goes out to you. This situation is fucked, not your fault and foreseen by almost no one.

 To those who quit their jobs hoping to work to reduce suffering and catastrophic risks using funds that have now evaporated: I hope that other donors can temporarily fill the gap and smooth

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