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Written in the aftermath of the FTX/SBF fraud scandal, this post represents an internal EA community debate about which institutional and philosophical lessons should and should not be drawn from the collapse.

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This EA Forum post argues that the community is overcorrecting in response to the FTX collapse, warning against using SBF's fraud to discredit longtermism, ambitious EA strategies, or earning-to-give. The author distinguishes between SBF's criminal conduct and the philosophical positions he espoused, attributing the disaster to failures of transparency and ethics rather than to EA's core strategies.

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  • FTX's collapse reflects individual ethical failures and lack of oversight, not inherent flaws in longtermism or earning-to-give as concepts.
  • Discrediting longtermism or ambitious EA goals because of SBF's actions commits a guilt-by-association fallacy.
  • Earning-to-give practiced with transparency and integrity remains a valid and valuable EA career strategy.
  • Overreacting to the scandal risks undermining effective altruism's most impactful strategies and philosophical foundations.
  • The community should focus corrective lessons on governance, oversight, and ethical conduct rather than retreating from ambition.

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 by burner Nov 14 2022 5 min read 20 284

 Community Philosophy FTX collapse Moral philosophy Frontpage Wrong lessons from the FTX catastrophe 1. Ambition was a mistake 2. No more earning to give 3. General FUD from nefarious actors 4. Most hot takes on ethics 20 comments There remains a large amount of uncertainty about what exactly happened inside FTX and Alameda. I do not offer any new takes on what occurred. However, there are the inklings of some "lessons" from the situation that are incorrect regardless of how the details flesh out. Pointing these out now may seem in poor taste while many are still coming to terms with what happened, but it important to do so before they become the canonical lessons.

 1. Ambition was a mistake

 There have been a number of calls for EA to "go back to bed nets." It is notable that this refrain conflates the alleged illegal and unethical behavior from FTX/Alameda with the philosophical position of longtermism. Rather than evaluating the two issues as distinct, the call seems to assume both were born out of the same runaway ambition. 

 Logically, this is obviously not the case. Longtermism grew in popularity during SBFs rise, and Future Fund did focus on longtermist projects, but FTX/Alameda situation has no bearing on the truth of longtermism and associated project's prioritization. 

 To the extent that both becoming incredibly rich and affecting the longterm trajectory of humanity are "ambitious" goals, ambition is not the problem. Committing financial crimes is a problem. Longtermism has problems, like knowing how to act given uncertainty about the future. But an enlightened understanding of ambition accommodates these problems: We should be ambitious in our goals while understanding our limitations in solving them. 

 There is an uncomfortable reality that SBF symbolized a new level of ambition for EA. That sense of ambition should be retained. His malfeasance should not be. 

 This is not to say that there may be lessons to learn about transparency, overconfidence, centralized power, trusting leaders, etc from these events. But all of these are distinct from a lesson about ambition, which depends more on vague allusions to Icarus than argument. 

 2. No more earning to give

 I am not sure that this is being learned as a "lesson" or if this situation simply "leaves a bad taste" in EA's mouths about earning to give. The alleged actions of the FTX/Alameda team in no way suggest that earning money to donate to effective causes is a poor career path.

 Certain employees of FTX/Alameda seem to have been doing distinctly unethical work, such as grossly mismanaging client funds. One of the only arguments for why one might be open to working a possibly unethic

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